Episode 72: Pursuing A Happy and Healthy Life with Dr. Sanjib Nandi

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Dr. Sanjib Nandi had it all. Well, it looked like he had it all anyway as a successful pharmacist, but he wanted something more in life. He didn't have the health and happiness he wanted. So he set out, did the research, and found his way to get what he was missing. He shares it with us in the podcast today. Not only does he share what he did, but he shares the tools with us that we can accomplish that same happiness and health in our lives, too. Let's welcome, Dr. Sanjib to the Pursuing Uncomfortable Podcast.

Melissa: 1:03

Dr. Sanjeev, welcome to the Pursuing Uncomfortable Podcast. How are you today?

Sanjib: 1:09

I'm doing excellent, Melissa. I hope you are doing fine as well.

Melissa: 1:15

I am. So far, so good. So can't ask for more than that, right? Yes, definitely. So, Dr. Sanjeep, you have quite a few accomplishments. First, you're a pharmacist. And second, you've got another thing going on in life that you're gonna share with us about. So what would you like us to know about you as we begin today? Uh,

Sanjib: 1:43

that's a very, you know, broad question. I have so many things, which is going on right now, and, uh, you know, I'm happy the way that trajectory of my life has. Right now, you know, I'm working on my app, which is called Novo. Uh, it's a free app for health and wellness. Um, anybody, you know, anywhere in the world can download it for pre, and it's in a Google Play store and app play store. And the whole point of making the app is to give the users a platform. Where they can, you know, improve their health and morale. And we have implemented a lot of things in that. Like we allow a section for meditation. And just to clarify the myth that, okay, meditation is related to religion. It has nothing to do with religion. Meditation is basically a form of exercise. Form to have a better concentration of your mind so that you can improve your focus because you know you can, yes, scientist, you can be a professor, you can be a teacher. We all need, you know, focus and concentration to accomplish our health. And when we were young, like, you know, when we go to school, nobody teaches us how to concentrate on how to. So basically meditation is a tool to improve your focus and concentration, and we have implemented that in our app so that we can improve your, you know, focus and concentration and get better in your life. The second part, which we have implemented in our app is the exercise. Like, you know, when we were wrong, we were gatherers and. We are not meant to sit in a deck and do our job. We have to walk, we have to run, we have to do different physical activity to keep this party in puffing on cup. And you know what our app will do is if they count the number of steps you are taking it in the whole day. So again, your exercise is an important part of our. And if we are doing exercise, you know there are different benefits of exercise. There is lot of literature and there's a literature in Harvard University that you are only walking. It decreases your cardio respirate disease by Toco person, which is a huge knock. And the third section which we have implemented is water intake. As you know, human beings, as you know, specifically, You know, we live in cold helpers and you know, I, I refer to myself as a camel to my son because I drink very less water because of the cold. We don't drink, you know, much water, but our body and rain is made of 70% water. If we are not breaking in the warfare, it can lead to depression and anxiety. So the third section is about, you know, Thele remind you about, you know, to take your water intake. You know, every written was three hours so that you know, you are reminded by something that, you know, keep your water intake in spite of, you know, being outside, you know, hold or in spite of you don't remember. And the fourth thing, which we have, uh, implemented this three analysis like screen is so. Which we all needed, like, you know, it's social without, you know, good restful sleep. You cannot function the next day. You know, it's only, even if you don't sleep one night, it can disrupt your whole day. So, you know, that app will analyze your live sleep, you know, sleep and where as you are aware that, you know, we. When we sleep, you know, there are additional things which is happening in the and, uh, you know, like, you know, the oxygen supply. You know, when you are sleeping, your body, you know, your brain needs oxygen. And, uh, when you're sleeping, all the whe material, which is in the brain, it's kind of know, created by the Segal spinal fluid so that, you know. Whatever the waste material is there comes out of the re sea. So it's, you know, sometimes hard for the human being to figure, you know, you, everything is working fine. You go to bed and the next day you wake up in the morning and you, what is the reason you, nobody knows it, but you know, there are different things happening in your brain, and our brain is so complicated that we know very little about this. We are able to do a lot of progress in the last few decades, but still rain is such a complicated thing that we have just touched the surface of the break. So, you know, the city panelists is one of the part in the app. Then, you know, gratitude is one of the lowest important thing, which makes us happy. So we do have a section, you know, where you can write what you are grateful for today. Cause every day is best. You know, you might be grateful for your family, you might be grateful for your son. You might be grateful that you woke up today because there are so many people who did not woke up today, which is definitely better than seeing the negative, you know, things, which is happening in our. So, so it's, it's a habit of healthy waiting. You know what, we are grateful though, you know, like, like, you know, giving example of my life, you know, I always used to see, you know, what is negative happening in my life rather than seeing the positive. And that's how elder human being is why you always see the negative style. You never see, you know, what is good happening in. There are so many things we are waiting for. Most of the human being, Melissa is happy with 90% of their life, most of the people. But what we, you know, take is the 10%, which we are not happy. We'll pick up those 10%. Okay? You know, I'm not happy with this thing, but why don't you see that 90% year? So, you know, gratitude is something you can yell. So that is one of the section in, in the end. Then we have more checks like, you know, how you are feeling today, whether you are in a good mood, you are sad, you are angry. We go through different emotions, you know, in a day, even if it is not all the emotions, you know, some of the emotions. And again, you not, it's, it's about, uh, analyzing okay, what kind of move you are going through because you cannot be happy all the. Yes. I don't want to sugar coat anything, you know, I want it to say, you know, what I feel about, cause it's hard for a human being to be happy all the time. If somebody is saying, you know, I'm happy all the time, he's lying, I can tell you that. So it's, it's kind of, you know, cultivating the habits which needs happen and, you know, as long as you can make your, your life, you know, 80% happy you are in a.

Melissa: 9:47

You know, I have to agree with you that gratitude really refocuses us on what is present in our lives and what is good. It takes away our focus from mourning over what's missing or worrying about what's not there, and that one practice of being grateful, that gratitude practice really focuses us on what is really present to. And so often we take those things for granted and it can make such a difference in our lives. But I really love as a spiritual leader, the incorporation of the spiritual health meditation with the physical aspects of health, getting enough sleep, drinking water, moving our bodies, and again, that other spiritual aspect of being grateful. I love that holistic approach. That's one of. Biggest things that I talk about in life is we are spiritual beings, whether or not we're religious, we are spiritual beings, and it's vital to tend to our spiritual health because it has ramifications in our physical health. And I love that you being a pharmacist, a scientist, someone with a background. Physicality of our bodies is also telling us it's important to meditate. It's important to practice gratitude because it all goes together. And folks, if you want this app, and you do, believe me, I downloaded it earlier this morning and was fooling around with it to the point in where I was almost late to this interview today. But the app is called Luvo, L U V O, and there's a link to it in the show notes. It's available for Android and Apple. Make sure you check that app out, install it on your phone, and you know I have to hand it to you. I have apps for meditation, I have apps on my phone for fitness and movement, but I love that you've incorporated these all in one place. So thank you for that. You're. And there are about 45 different directions I wanna go on this podcast, but aas Wisdom says, let's just pick one or two and go from there. So I wanna talk about the difference that meditation can make in our lives, if that's all right with you. Well, yes. That's from Becky and meditation. In certain traditions, it's called centering prayer, but it's simply just quieting your mind and your body and your soul and just being present in the moment. So call it whatever you will, but it's, uh, such a healthy addition to your lives. So tell us how that can change us, if you would.

Devon: 12:46

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Melissa: 13:14

So

Sanjib: 13:15

let me, you know, start with a story. You know, why did I started meditation? So, you know, I was struggling in my life from 2013 to 2016, and I don't know what to do with my life. You know, I was filled with fear, anger, resentment, and uh, every passing day I was drowning more and more, and I was on and off. That journey for three or four years. And by 2016 I realized that, you know, I was thinking deeper and deeper in this negative emotion and I have to do something and I take the rock bottom. Or you can see the mad of my life, the deepest level of the deepest point, you know, any human being can read. So I can, you know, understand or I can connect with different, you know, Because you know, you can only understand the feelings of other people when you have seen emotional, when you have taken that journey. And you know, I know that so many people are struggling in this life, you know, because of financial issues. It can be relationship issues, you know, there are different issues which, you know, everybody has to peace. And, and you know, once I have want that my mind is full in different. And because of that, you know, restless mind or you can say monkey mind, I thought, you know, I have to, you know, take control of his mind. So as I came from, you know, India, or you can say the Eastern culture where it is called meditation. So I thought, you know, my mind is so much restless, why don't I cry medication? And in the Western culture you can say, you know, mindfulness. And just to clarify it, like, you know, my mom never meditates, she never do any kind of, uh, mindfulness that she used to think praying is a uniform ation. So it's not that, you know, this is not related. Everything is related. You know, meditation have, I will not say that it's kind of related to the Asian, as I mentioned it, it's about, you know, centering your. And have, you know, peace and ECU in the brain so that you can hint pill because you know, I have, uh, you know, trying to find out what is the scientist degrees and you know, how, why does our brain, you know, worse in different directions? Because the rule of the brain has two things. It used to keep yourself. And the second thing is, you know, it, it was to conserve energy. And by default, by default we always think negative. So certain control of this monkey mine, we have to implement something in our life. You know, you can take, you know, prayer and if you can do clear every single day, which is, you know, which is fine. What what is good. You know, I chose meditation because, you know, I thought if this is going to help, and meditation is kind of, you know, you concentrate on an object place thing or just on your breath and why people sing, right? Because it is always present for, you have to go anywhere to find your breath, and if you are concentrating on, on your breath, you're not thinking about any negative. So once I started doing meditation, I found that I'm less, you know, reactive. Uh, my focus was getting better and then I started diving deep into the scientific reason. Okay? What is happening in my brain? Because, you know, something is definitely happening, which is eating me, myself, and less real. We, and I find out that when you are meditative, there is. Structure in our brain, which is called amygdala, which is the fight or the flight responses, that eight weeks of meditation decreases the size of amygdala, which is the fear thing. And once you are less fear, it means, you know, you are more in a stain of, uh, calm and relaxing. You are not in a flight of light. It has been scientifically proven by Sarah Laar, who's a neuroscientist in Power Medical Health College. The second thing, you know what meditation there is? Either we are left brainers or right weight, either or. You know, it's the same thing like either we, right, right with left hand or the right hand. You cannot write with bone, but imagine if you're unable to write with both. Now imagine if you can use, you know, both your brains, you know, the less hemisphere and the right hemisphere, and become whole brain. It means, you know, left side, less pointed equal are more analytical, logical, more good at reasoning part, and the right side brain are more good at philosophy and power. And what mitigation does it, it increases the thick. Or the joining with me in the left hemisphere and the light, uh, right hemisphere and you become full rainer. Once you become full rainers, you know, you are thinking clarity, you know, everything in fulls, your mental clarity becomes, you know, opt. So you know, these are the benefits which, you know, which found of the reading that there are so many other benefits like meditator sleeps like. No, I never added problems. And you know, I go to back 30 seconds. Salmon Street. I never walk about night time. Know there are so many other benefits like, you know, it releases ends, you know, difference in domine, you know, rain, which makes it happen. So seeing these benefits, you know, I started doing more and more and uh, you know, it has definitely impacted my life. And I will tell your mother to do some kind of, you know, mental training and pray. As I tell you know, my mom never, um, did meditation, but she pray every single day. So if you can pray every single day, because you cannot go to, you know, church every single day, but she can pray.

Melissa: 20:10

That's fantastic and I love how you can start small with meditation. You can start with just three to five minutes and set a timer if you need to, but that three to five minutes can really begin to make changes in you. And it's not like a switch switches flipped. It takes time after a few. After a couple of weeks or so, you're gonna start seeing some differences in yourself. Just meditating for a few minutes each day, and then in my experience, you start craving a little more and a little more, and you find that place of balance, you find the amount that works for you, and it makes such a difference.

Sanjib: 21:00

Yes, definitely. You know, as you say, you. You card for more. You know, same thing happens for me. So that's the reason I was kind of laughing, you know, like, I am now evicted girl meditation. Like, you know, when I woke up, you know, I have to do it, you know, like kind of become a habit before I go to work bed, you know, I have to do meditation for, you know, at least five or 10 minutes. It is, you know, such a routine. It is such a habit that I cannot skip it and, and why I do it, because I still, the ve. what? It helped you want them. Because once you see the benefits, and that's the reason most of the people don't do it, because then it takes time and it's not tangible. Like you cannot measure mm-hmm. And if you cannot measure something, you know it, it becomes harder for people to stick to it. But again, you know, as it, it has a compounding aspect like, you know, keep the money in the bank. You know, after you know, few years, you will see that compounding aspect. You know, same thing with the meditation, same thing with exercise, and same thing with any other things you want to improve your life. Like if you wanted to become a good speaker, just practice three to five minutes every single. Here you may see, you know, how much inform you have done in the course of like, you know, when I started, you know, my journey of becoming a speaker, I used to family, but you know, I still, you know, become, you know, persistent and I thought, okay, I'm going to do it. And over the course of prayer, I'm able to improve my definitely, you know, I'm not able to go where I work to. Because you know, life is all about improving yourself. There is no end because you know if there is a end for it. You know, once you reach that goal, then again what happens? You have to find something to do in your life. You cannot say, okay, you know, this is the my goal, and once I finish this, that's that game plan that, you know, the life doesn't end there and you have to find something again, you know, in your. So that you keep progressing, you have to always look forward to something in your life. Yes. And one thing I, you know, just wanted to go mention it, that you know, life is not about comforting with somebody else. Any human being in the United States can definitely mistake much better in English than what I, but my competition is not with you or not with anybody else. My competition is, you know, can I become better than who I was? That needs me. That,

Melissa: 23:49

absolutely. Now, before we end today, I wanna talk about your book, because I love the title, the Man With Zero Talent, and what's the name of your book? And I wanna buy it just because of the title. Tell us what inspired this book and a little bit of what it's about. So you know, when

Sanjib: 24:10

I started myself Transformation Journey in uh, 2017. You know, I don't know what can do. So I started implementing meditation. Then, you know, I started implementing, you know, exercise. I started walking, which eventually led me to run my first health marathon and, uh, my first, uh, full marathon. And then I started implementing, you know, course some was in my. and this mind and body are not different entity that's kind of, you know, interrelated to nature. So I started eating healthy because, you know what I put inside my mouth, you know, is what it is, you know, giving to my brain. At the same time, if I'm putting, you know, junk in my body, it is going to make me lethargic and you know, my energy level will get, so I have to, you know, The best fuel you can say in my body so that, you know, my body and mind is working in a optimal condition. So I started, you know, working on my eating habits and um, you know, I did an extensive research about meditation, exercise, full showers, you know, how we eat healthy. And, uh, which led me to file. Okay, what is about emotional intelligence? Because, you know, again, we are going through different kinds of emotion and how we can take better control of this brain because our brain is, uh, means only three pounds, which is, you know, to one body made, yet it consumes 25% of the. Now when it, when it is consuming 45 of the energy by default, the role of the vein is to conserve energy. And it's like if I wanted to do something or accomplish something in my life, it means, you know, I have to work hard. So what I have to do is, is you know, I have to become the captain of this model, otherwise the mind is going to conform my life. So the is about self transformation. You know what I have. In my life to change myself and I wanted to give her a clear cut roadmap to anybody who needs it because it took me three years to, you know, kind of refine my life. And if somebody's re reading this go you, I will give them a shortcut. If you go these things, it'll improve your life. Six to eight. So, you know, it's kind of, you know, to help the users or the leaders that, you know, this is the thing so you can do with it. And it's not about, uh, you know, it's not about a story of the man. It's about, you know, any individual who is a, who is from the age of 16 to 75 years old, they can read and will help them how to become a f and human. Because by default we are negative. And you know, we have in the habit of positivity. And once you have implemented the habit of positivity, how to become better version of all because in an only human being wants to be better in their life. Because if you're not making yourself better, you're not progressing. And if you're not progressing, you cannot be happy in. You have to always work on yourself. You know that is the thing which is in your hand. You cannot control all the circumstances which is happening in your life, but you can definitely control what is happening inside me, what I can control about my health. I cannot control, you know, when it is going to rain or when it's going, no, it's outside door. It's very painful, but I can, every time can pull okay, how, what I am going to wake and what I'm going to do after I wake up so that, you know, I can keep myself happy and

Melissa: 28:19

perfect and what a way to live. I would much rather be happy and healthy than any other way. So thank you, Dr. Sanji, for joining us today. And folks, I encourage you to click the link to see his website, check out the app. There's a lot of information there on the website about the app, but also about life in general. And of course get your copy of the book. So thank you again for joining us today.

Sanjib: 28:48

Thank you very much for inviting me in your.